{"id":4937,"date":"2014-12-11T06:01:40","date_gmt":"2014-12-11T06:01:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/?p=4937"},"modified":"2025-06-09T10:57:03","modified_gmt":"2025-06-09T10:57:03","slug":"learning-from-comics-an-interview-with-philippe-willems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/learning-from-comics-an-interview-with-philippe-willems","title":{"rendered":"Learning from Comics: An Interview with Philippe Willems"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/journals.berghahnbooks.com\/eca\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/berghahnbooks.com\/covers\/jnls\/jnl_cover_eca.jpg\" alt=\"ECA\" width=\"200\" height=\"288\" \/><\/a>This post is the transcript of an electronic interview between Philippe Willems\u00a0and Berghahn blog editor Lorna Field.\u00a0Philippe Willems\u00a0is the author of the article <a href=\"http:\/\/berghahn.publisher.ingentaconnect.com\/content\/berghahn\/eca\/2014\/00000007\/00000001\/art00002\"><em>Perspective Games: Cham&#8217;s Heritage and Legacy<\/em><\/a>\u00a0which appeared in\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/journals.berghahnbooks.com\/eca\/\"><strong>European Comic Art<\/strong><\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/berghahn.publisher.ingentaconnect.com\/content\/berghahn\/eca\/2014\/00000007\/00000001\">Volume 7, Number 1<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><strong>What drew you to the archeology of the comic strip?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My relationship to the comic strip and its history is quite organic. Growing up in France, I learned to read before I entered grammar school by reading my parents\u2019 <em>Ast\u00e9rix<\/em> books over and over again. At the time, there was a widespread consensus among educators that comics prevented children from reading correctly and even could impede their intellectual development. However, I ended up reading more grown-up books as a child than any of my friends. Is it a coincidence that, having become literate thanks to stories intimately blending words and images, I acquired a natural feeling for the narrative strategies they articulate? I think not.<\/p>\n<p>Between the ages of 6 and 12 perhaps, every summer I would revisit stacks of 1960s issues of the magazine <em>Spirou<\/em> that stayed stored in boxes the rest of the year. I loved one of its regular sections, a history of the comic strip in installments by Morris and Pierre Vankeer entitled \u201cNeuvi\u00e8me art. Mus\u00e9e de la bande dessin\u00e9e\u201d (ninth art. museum of the comic strip). It appeared without any chronological order, and its occasional incursions into 19<sup>th<\/sup>&#8211; and early 20<sup>th<\/sup>-century cartoons, so different from my familiar Franco-Belgian fare, fascinated me. At any rate, the 19<sup>th<\/sup> century was very much part of my natural environment. My grandmother lived in a seven-floor Haussmannian building now demolished. It had remained unchanged since the 1860s. The eerie central light\/airshaft gave you a peek into the past if you dared look. There was a dark, quiet service staircase that tenants used less than the front one. Its combination of tiles, metal, and wood smoothed out by time gave you sensorial contact with the Second Empire, worlds away from the bustling street outside.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Philippe-Willems.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-4951\" src=\"http:\/\/berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/12\/Philippe-Willems.png\" alt=\"Philippe Willems\" width=\"459\" height=\"340\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>What about working with comic-strip history do you find most challenging?\u00a0 Most rewarding?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A challenging part of graphic-narrative archeology lies in locating primary materials. You need to collect a critical mass of documents before acquiring any meaningful overview of your subject. In the past few years, online collections have been making things vastly easier than when David Kunzle published his seminal, encyclopedic <em>History of the Comic Strip<\/em>. However\u2014and fortunately for the rest of us\u2014there still is digging to do, and I love going to libraries, handling rare, sometimes mythical, books, and searching through entire collections of antique periodicals page by page, wondering who has turned them before.<\/p>\n<p>I find it rewarding to feel that I am contributing new elements to our knowledge of how meaning is constructed when words and images combine. I was inspired to get into this line of work by the research of scholars such as Kunzle, Thierry Groensteen and Thierry Smolderen, and it feels good to add my brick to their edifices. As far as <a href=\"http:\/\/berghahn.publisher.ingentaconnect.com\/content\/berghahn\/eca\/2014\/00000007\/00000001\/art00002\">this specific article<\/a> on Cham is concerned, I take pride in unearthing the roots of jokes so classic that we had lost trace of their origins. Overall, I find it funny that a narrative form condemned by so many of my teachers defines my academic work today. That\u2019s quite a reversal. My research interests, however, are not limited to the comic strip (see <a href=\"http:\/\/philippewillems.wordpress.com\">http:\/\/philippewillems.wordpress.com<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>You underline a paradox at the core of your relationship to your field of study. Is there anything else in your professional life that you find paradoxical?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My son is almost three years old. As he grows up, the shelves where I keep hard-cover graphic novels and bound periodicals that have survived the assaults of time across decades, and centuries, for some, will dangerously get within closer and closer reach. I can already see myself saying something like\u00a0 \u201cYou know, these are daddy\u2019s comic books. They are fragile. You can play with them when you\u2019re 20 or 30.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/berghahn.publisher.ingentaconnect.com\/content\/berghahn\/eca\/2014\/00000007\/00000001\/art00002\">CLICK HERE<\/a>\u00a0TO READ PHILIPPE WILLEM\u2019S\u00a0ARTICLE IN EUROPEAN COMIC ART. TO GET A FREE 60-DAY ONLINE TRIAL OF THE JOURNAL,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/berghahn.publisher.ingentaconnect.com\/content\/berghahn\/eca\/trial\">CLICK HERE<\/a>.\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This post is the transcript of an electronic interview between Philippe Willems\u00a0and Berghahn blog editor Lorna Field.\u00a0Philippe Willems\u00a0is the author of the article Perspective Games: Cham&#8217;s Heritage and Legacy\u00a0which appeared in\u00a0 European Comic Art, Volume 7, Number 1.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":19,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,222],"tags":[384,383,170,841,255,385],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4937"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/19"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4937"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4937\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4989,"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4937\/revisions\/4989"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4937"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4937"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.berghahnbooks.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4937"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}